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		<title>By: Sher</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Sher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it work in the reverse as well? Are desi men more likely to go down on us come suhaag raat after being with western women who will not tolerate just ek do teen in the bedroom and expect orgasm, mulitple orgasms even?Â  

Will we desi women finally get some satisfaction????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it work in the reverse as well? Are desi men more likely to go down on us come suhaag raat after being with western women who will not tolerate just ek do teen in the bedroom and expect orgasm, mulitple orgasms even?Â  </p>
<p>Will we desi women finally get some satisfaction????</p>
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		<title>By: S.I.</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>S.I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Haha, turning lemons into lemonade.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, turning lemons into lemonade.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahotma in Herre</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahotma in Herre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fail to see the bright side of Priyas dating DubGees (White Guys).  The trick is to date an Indian girl AFTER she's been colonized by Brad, Brent, Brett or Brian.  After being with a white guy, Indian girls adopt an amoral position on making the sexual desire and will be more likely to get down, whether it be with Muhammads, Michaels, Maliks or Matisyahus. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fail to see the bright side of Priyas dating DubGees (White Guys).  The trick is to date an Indian girl AFTER she&#8217;s been colonized by Brad, Brent, Brett or Brian.  After being with a white guy, Indian girls adopt an amoral position on making the sexual desire and will be more likely to get down, whether it be with Muhammads, Michaels, Maliks or Matisyahus. </p>
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		<title>By: Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"What about for desi guys? Well, honestly, we don’t feel the rules apply (my girlfriend disagrees). Why? Because women can get men all the time. Men can’t get women so easily."

Move to New York, the ratio is ridiculously skewed in favor of men.  If I had a dime for every time I saw a hot Indian guy with a white girlfriend...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What about for desi guys? Well, honestly, we don’t feel the rules apply (my girlfriend disagrees). Why? Because women can get men all the time. Men can’t get women so easily.&#8221;</p>
<p>Move to New York, the ratio is ridiculously skewed in favor of men.  If I had a dime for every time I saw a hot Indian guy with a white girlfriend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: S.I.</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>S.I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;@ John:
 
 First off, despite the tone of our blog, it's crazy to apologize for being white.  No one has to apologize for the color of his skin, just for the ignorance in his head.  And it sounds like you're exempt from that.
 
 Your point about aggression winning over females is well taken.  While we have been content to see it as an issue of white preferred over brown, it also could have to do with aggression vs passivity (or at least, less aggression on the part of brown men).
 
 However, I actually think you're giving desi men a little too much credit.  Like with any other group, we're largely a bunch of idiots, with the upstanding and outstanding among us being few and far between.  And as far as looks go, I can't deliver a blanket statement saying one ethnicity of woman is more beautiful than another, etc., as that's a matter of personal taste.  I do think, however, that your idea of brown men being more desirable than Caucasian to anything but a select few is merely wishful thinking.  Under Western standards of attractiveness, we are not.  If it were true, this would likely be an entirely different kind of blog.
 
 You have an interesting point with the aggression.  Thanks for responding.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">@ John:</p>
<p> First off, despite the tone of our blog, it&#8217;s crazy to apologize for being white.  No one has to apologize for the color of his skin, just for the ignorance in his head.  And it sounds like you&#8217;re exempt from that.</p>
<p> Your point about aggression winning over females is well taken.  While we have been content to see it as an issue of white preferred over brown, it also could have to do with aggression vs passivity (or at least, less aggression on the part of brown men).</p>
<p> However, I actually think you&#8217;re giving desi men a little too much credit.  Like with any other group, we&#8217;re largely a bunch of idiots, with the upstanding and outstanding among us being few and far between.  And as far as looks go, I can&#8217;t deliver a blanket statement saying one ethnicity of woman is more beautiful than another, etc., as that&#8217;s a matter of personal taste.  I do think, however, that your idea of brown men being more desirable than Caucasian to anything but a select few is merely wishful thinking.  Under Western standards of attractiveness, we are not.  If it were true, this would likely be an entirely different kind of blog.</p>
<p> You have an interesting point with the aggression.  Thanks for responding.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating discussion.  I'm an Anglo male (please forgive) living in the States with many friends from/livng in Andhra Pradesh (both male and female).  I tend to agree with the Desi male perspective that Desi females can simply choose who they date; they are far more beautiful  along many dimensions than the average caucasian female.  Westerners have little culture compared to Indians and, therefore, are unconcerned with manners and appropriate conduct: Western males aggressively go after whatever and whoever they want with no thought of social mores.  This puts more cultured Desi males at a disadvantage. I think there is a bright side though: Desi males are also more attractive than caucasian males along many dimensions (e.g., appearance, education, manners, etc.).  Unfortunately, many human females--Desi females also?--react in seemingly instinctive ways to aggressive males: Their instincts tell them to mate with strong aggressive males, even though such males often make poor long-term companions.  So, in the end, it seems Nature Wants Outcross Mating (both inter-racial and inter-cultural).  At the same time, I know many caucasian women find Desi men strikingly handsome (e.g,, they love their skin color and facial bone structure, both of which are less Neanderthal than caucasians).  They are just not used to Desi male interpersonal styles; their only experiences are with aggressive western males.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating discussion.  I&#8217;m an Anglo male (please forgive) living in the States with many friends from/livng in Andhra Pradesh (both male and female).  I tend to agree with the Desi male perspective that Desi females can simply choose who they date; they are far more beautiful  along many dimensions than the average caucasian female.  Westerners have little culture compared to Indians and, therefore, are unconcerned with manners and appropriate conduct: Western males aggressively go after whatever and whoever they want with no thought of social mores.  This puts more cultured Desi males at a disadvantage. I think there is a bright side though: Desi males are also more attractive than caucasian males along many dimensions (e.g., appearance, education, manners, etc.).  Unfortunately, many human females&#8211;Desi females also?&#8211;react in seemingly instinctive ways to aggressive males: Their instincts tell them to mate with strong aggressive males, even though such males often make poor long-term companions.  So, in the end, it seems Nature Wants Outcross Mating (both inter-racial and inter-cultural).  At the same time, I know many caucasian women find Desi men strikingly handsome (e.g,, they love their skin color and facial bone structure, both of which are less Neanderthal than caucasians).  They are just not used to Desi male interpersonal styles; their only experiences are with aggressive western males.</p>
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		<title>By: AruNiCHal</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>AruNiCHal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let's be honest - no one, girl or boy - would care about some interracial dating unless the 'sell out' is hot. that's the only time it really matters. which could mean that it's only about race in as much as you think people you think are hot should come to you first because they are your race. which discounts what they think about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s be honest - no one, girl or boy - would care about some interracial dating unless the &#8217;sell out&#8217; is hot. that&#8217;s the only time it really matters. which could mean that it&#8217;s only about race in as much as you think people you think are hot should come to you first because they are your race. which discounts what they think about you.</p>
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		<title>By: AttyDesi</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>AttyDesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hilariously bitter.  i like it and have been there bala.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hilariously bitter.  i like it and have been there bala.</p>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is quite the conundrum.  we could be going too far and alienating our own women through such actions.  or are these women who are lost causes so to speak and wouldn't go for brown men anyway?  does it justify our excursions into foreign territories, or is that something we'd do regardless, and women should just deal with it because, as an earlier comment said, it's just easier for girls? or should the dude have stood up for her, only because they both jump the same hurdles being indian and in the same industry in the same place? i'm thinking the bigger man would have, but getting a vibe that she's being scrutinized because she's indian vs. because she's a woman, or because she has a weak case, or she's not good, or has a reputation with one of the senior officials... it is not so open-and-shut.  but had she been dating an indian guy, would you have said something? if the answer is yes, then you probably should have regardless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is quite the conundrum.  we could be going too far and alienating our own women through such actions.  or are these women who are lost causes so to speak and wouldn&#8217;t go for brown men anyway?  does it justify our excursions into foreign territories, or is that something we&#8217;d do regardless, and women should just deal with it because, as an earlier comment said, it&#8217;s just easier for girls? or should the dude have stood up for her, only because they both jump the same hurdles being indian and in the same industry in the same place? i&#8217;m thinking the bigger man would have, but getting a vibe that she&#8217;s being scrutinized because she&#8217;s indian vs. because she&#8217;s a woman, or because she has a weak case, or she&#8217;s not good, or has a reputation with one of the senior officials&#8230; it is not so open-and-shut.  but had she been dating an indian guy, would you have said something? if the answer is yes, then you probably should have regardless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Takur</title>
		<link>http://www.desimanifesto.com/loyalty-justice/2007-11-21#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Takur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL that is some raw sh*t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL that is some raw sh*t</p>
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